Well This Is Gonna Be Fun

"Denver Is Stuck In The 90s" (denver80222)
03/01/2016 at 12:58 • Filed to: Rebuilding the danger ranger

I guess its time to start saving up. I wanna get started on rebuilding my 4.0 by May of this year.

DISCUSSION (35)

crowmolly > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 13:00

Gonna get the heads done too? New springs, valve job?

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > crowmolly
03/01/2016 at 13:00

Gonna adjust the valves. Hopefully wont need to replace anything

HammerheadFistpunch > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 13:00

Why do you suspect you will need new pistons? are you boring over the block?

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > HammerheadFistpunch
03/01/2016 at 13:01

It comes in the kit. Im not sure if Im gonna use them or not just yet

EL_ULY > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 13:02

Step one: Go to junkyard and find 4.6 Mustang

Step two: Buy Pizza and invite friends on Saturday

Step three: Install V8

Step four: Receive OPPO Legend achievement trophy!

Future next gen S2000 owner > EL_ULY
03/01/2016 at 13:05

Don’t forget the beer.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > EL_ULY
03/01/2016 at 13:05

A 4.6 would be an interesting swap, but colorado requires all engine swaps to be from the same type of vehicle (i.e. A truck) and one model year or more newer. So Im looking at a 1994+ Ford truck for a swap

EL_ULY > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 13:07

aarrgh! Damn you LOLorado

Kinja'd!!!

Party-vi > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 13:08

You’re missing the machine shop work - boring the block, polishing the crank, valve job, etc.

450X_FTW > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 13:08

Step 1: remove old engine

Step 2: install LS engine

Step 3: POWERRR!!!!

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > EL_ULY
03/01/2016 at 13:08

I mean I could get a 4.6 out of an f150 or an expedition

crowmolly > Party-vi
03/01/2016 at 13:10

I was thinking the same thing. Looks like it will be a hone and re-ring job.

Party-vi > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 13:13

You, uh, you don’t adjust the valves in that engine. It has hydraulic lifters for that purpose.

Party-vi > crowmolly
03/01/2016 at 13:14

I did that to my 302 and wish I had it bored instead.

crowmolly > Party-vi
03/01/2016 at 13:18

I know more than a few people that share that sentiment.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 13:29

Why on earth would you waste money rebuilding one of those garbage engines?

-stuck with a 4.0 cologne

DirtyBird > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 13:31

might I suggest buying another 4.0 to rebuild so your truck is only down for the weekend or so it takes to pull one and put the other in

EL_ULY > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 13:32

5.4 or something something with a camel :]

crowmolly > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 13:34

Mountaineers and Explorers got the 5.0

PS sorry for the Spamming, I’m on lunch and bored as hell.

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 13:38

6.8L Triton V10

V10 Ranger is best Ranger

tromoly > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 13:39

The list to rebuild my Rambler’s engine was similar in length, that combined with some structural rot was why I ended up selling it.

Best wishes with the rebuild, document it and share with the rest of the class.

TheD0k_2many toys 2little time > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 13:40

good luck. its cheaper and less time consuming to just buy a better engine and swap. And you can upgrade to a 5.0 or a 4.6 depending on what you like.

DoYouEvenShift > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 14:27

Kinja'd!!!

Dude, seriously. Reman crate it.

1000X quicker and less hassle than dealing with machine shops, parts stores, tracking down odds and ends. Plus warranty.

Mattbob > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 14:36

what part of the engine? would the engine from a Lightning fit?

Brian Silvestro > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 14:43

Just sell it and get a better car instead

Nibbles > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 14:44

Where’d you find that info?

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > Nibbles
03/01/2016 at 14:50

I heard it from monkeypuzzle and a few other people have said the same thing. But I really do need to look into it. Im just really worried about emmissions

Nibbles > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 14:55

Yeah I’m looking into it too. It does have to be the same year or newer, contain the original emissions equipment of the newer engine (if applicable), but I haven’t been able to confirm that whole “has to be from a truck” part. That’s what gets me.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > Nibbles
03/01/2016 at 14:56

I kinda wanna run into an emissions testing facility and bug one of the people there

Nibbles > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 15:04

Here are the regs:

XI. ENGINE CHANGES

XI.A. For those vehicles in which the original engine has been replaced, the emissions limits and applicable emissions control equipment for the year and model of the vehicle body/chassis, as per registration/title or replacement engine, whichever is newest, shall apply. For those diesel powered vehicles which have been converted to operate on fuel(s) other than diesel; the emissions limits and applicable emissions control equipment for the year, make and model of the gasoline powered engine equivalent as originally manufactured, for the vehicle body/chassis, per the registration or replacement engine, whichever is newest, shall apply as determined by emissions technical center personnel or designee and specified on an official AIR Program vehicle evaluation form (DR2365).

XI.B. For 1975 and newer vehicles in which the original engine has been replaced, if either the vehicle body/chassis original engine, as per registration/title or replacement engine as manufactured had a catalytic converter system, air injection reaction system, and/or microprocessor based air/fuel control system, these emission control systems must be present, intact and operational before a Certification of Emissions Control may be issued.

XI.C. For those vehicles titled/registered as model year 1975 and newer, that were assembled by other than a licensed manufacturer such as kit-cars, registered/titled according to Section(s) 42-6-108 and/or 42-5-205, C.R.S. and assigned a state or manufacturer specific identification number, the applicable emissions control equipment and standards will be based upon a determination by technical center personnel of the vintage of the vehicle engine. The technical center personnel may issue an affidavit and the year of the engine shall be presumed to be that stated by the vehicle owner unless it is determined by state emissions technical center personnel or designee, after physical inspection of the vehicle engine, that the year of the engine is other than stated by the owner.

So it doesn’t have to be truck-to-truck. As long as the engine is as new or newer and contains all applicable emissions equipment, you’re solid. Now go get yourself a 4.6.

Nibbles > Nibbles
03/01/2016 at 15:08

https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/sites/…

It’s on page 25

slipperysallylikespenguins > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 15:29

If you live in Denver and have already passed emmissions before, can’t you just drive by the mobile stations a couple times. They would never know what you have under the hood.

DasWauto > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 17:54

Why? Doesn’t your truck have ridiculously few miles on it, especially given its age? Is it running poorly?

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > DasWauto
03/01/2016 at 17:55

Its at 123k. But 4.0s have a tendency to destroy the valve train due to poor oiling. It ticks a bit. Its also 22 years old and needs pretty much every seal

DasWauto > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 18:00

The 4.0 in my parents’ ‘97 Ranger is at well over 200K miles. It’s tired, but that’s not surprising given the mileage. These engines can take a good amount of punishment but what [little] it produces in power is not worth a rebuild IMO.